Covid vaccine, did you get it.

[wildbears]

Salk, Sabin, and the Polio Vaccine.

Jonas Salk developed the first effective polio vaccine using a killed virus. His vaccine became available in 1955 and immediately began to save lives and prevent lifelong crippling. Not in time for one of my best friends from high school. The back of his head was totally flat from lying in an iron lung.

Albert Sabin, working at the University of Cincinnati Children's Hospital, followed with the first live vaccine, available in 1960. It was significantly more effective.

Sabin lived in a modest home in College Hills, Ohio, a suburb of Cincinnati. I know this since one of my brothers dated his daughter and I drove him to their home one time. I vaguely remember meeting or at least seeing Dr. Sabin in the front doorway.

So did Sabin cash in for millions with his vaccine. No. Neither he or Salk pursued patents on their vaccines.

[Capnrip]

I watched an interesting documentary on polio recently. Like many of you I remember going to a high school gymnasium to get the vaccine, on a sugar cube if I remember right. Sabin was very critical of Salk, saying the killed virus wouldn't work but it had an efficacy rate of around 80 percent, which as you said saved countless lives. What wasn't widely known was that they used kids in institutions and school children as test subjects.

[wildbears]

And those groups were also used to test two previous versions (non Salk/Sabin) and some of the test subjects in those tests died from Polio.

[BillGsa]

https://youtu.be/gRiDgasJDNs

[BillGsa]

[BillGsa]

[BillGsa]

This is what happens when you follow the science

https://youtu.be/qT6tLCVXeg4

[955i]

Oh, brother. Youtube cancelled the video. Must have contained facts.

[802Mike]

I wanted to see the people that suffered before Covid.

[Pete_Tallahassee]

https://www.advrider.com/us-border-e...-until-spring/

[wildbears]

Unfortunately, about of third of screening tests with infection are false negatives. .

[802Mike]

I need to get back on that site. I pay the $$ every year and get the magazines.

[wildbears]

Even vaccinated or previously infected, this is some nasty crap.

[Pittsdriverwes]

Unless the MDs studying this are just lying, it seems pretty conclusive that if you're a person that is vaccinated for COVID-19 your risk of developing a permanent heart problem is about 1 in 50. Myocarditis can apparently be present with no symptoms or problems for years, or it can kill you in short order. I'm told there is treatment for it if it can be diagnosed but it takes a heart MRI to see it and nobody is going to cover that unless you're symptomatic, and by then it's pretty late in the game. There definitely seems to be significant benefit to being vaccinated but in no reality is that risk worth the benefit. Medicines and vaccines in the past have been pulled or disapproved for problems orders of magnitude less prevalent.

What's it say that the doctors and researchers releasing this information are all being publicly discredited and shunned? Which is more likely, that they are conspiracy theorists or that they're just not afraid to speak the truth of the emerging data in the face of being "canceled?"

My whole extended family is vaccinated and all we can hope for is that we all pulled the trigger on an empty myocarditis chamber.

[Capnrip]

Jeez, get it or don't get it. Do your research and let your conscience be your guide.

[justjoe]

I just wanted to circle back around and tell you that you ain't my real mom so don't tell me what to do.

[Capnrip]

If I was your real Mom I'm afraid some hard decisions would have been made in the delivery room.

[BillGsa]

The beginning of this video shows how previous vaccines were pulled for having far less adverse reactions.
BTW this Dr was totally pro vaccine at the beginning.

https://youtu.be/JYR1wz-Cf_M

[cabnfvr]

The 1925 serum run to Nome, also known as the Great Race of Mercy and The Serum Run, was a transport of diphtheria antitoxin by dog sled relay across the U.S. territory of Alaska by 20 mushers and about 150 sled dogs across 674 miles (1,085 km) in 5+1?2 days, saving the small town of Nome and the surrounding communities from a developing epidemic of diphtheria.

It's a myth. Unfortunately the villagers were anti-vaxers so they all died. The Iditarod is ran annually in their memory.

[Pittsdriverwes]

I'm definitely not an anti-vaxxer. I got the vaccines as soon as I could get them as did my family. But it makes a lot of sense to me to not ignore the data emerging and it's pretty hard to not be skeptical now given how these doctors are being treated by their profession. Science is founded upon critical examination and challenge and they should be rewarded and not vilified for presenting the emerging data.

[BillGsa]

Fauci is the only "real" Science

[802Mike]

I never saw the data before and during covid of those that died of other illnesses.

[Pittsdriverwes]

That's because everyone that died during the time, by definition, died of COVID, It was very profitable.

[BillGsa]

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/...l-wont-listen/

[802Mike]

Agree with Bill...
Since I got my Pfizer shot I have erections that last for four hours!
I think they mixed up the batches.

[955i]

Mike, do you REALLY expect us to believe THAT? LOL

[Loggiebone]

Mike, you should share a room with Joe!??

[802Mike]

At my recent physical I got two shots, Tetanus and Pneumonia. I got the bill for what
medicaid did not cover and there were two "ADMIN" charges. I called the billing office
and she seemed to dance around it saying, "Those are for the vaccinations." I asked
again but worded it differently, "What does "ADMIN" mean. She said, "That's for the
nurse to administer the shot." Next time I'll take mine to go please !

[wildbears]

It has been recently alleged that Dr. Scott Gottlieb actively suppressed information concerning the efficacy of the vaccine versus natural, post-infection immunity.

Dr. Gottlieb purportedly did this while serving as the FDA Commissioner and also being a paid Pfizer board member.

I wish this was the only example of a corrupt policy concerning Covid in the US.